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Subject: ::: The Council of Nine :::

All Follow-Up: Re: ::: The Council of Nine :::
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:33:58 GMT
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::: The Council of Nine ::: 

My Deare Brethren of the Internette;

Below is an insightful commentary from from an east coast
journalist who at one time was affiliated with Laurence 
Rockefeller, Dr. C.B. Scott Jones (Aviary) and Senator 
Claiborne Pell yet recently is rumoured to hang with various
Congressional oversight committees while maintaining at least
a tenuous tentacle into various intelligence and law-enforcement
orgs.  An interesting fellow with a remarkably robust array of
data under his belt.

Brother Dick Farley [IMO rather admirably] continues to whittle 
away at the absurd scientologickal facade [i.e. ancient and 
enduring occultism cloaked in time- and culture-appropriate 
Swannian/Hubbardian pseudo-scientistic technobabble] which 
masks the Oz-like discarnate entities who continue pulling the 
Bramleyan "custodial" levers and twisting the dials which focus 
our perceptual lenses; all the while chanting desperately the 
interstitial mantra "Pay no attention to that man behind the 
curtain!"; the Roddenberryan "UFO" phantasmagoria thus parading
incessantly before our eager yet alarmingly gullible and myopic 

As we note the latter 20th century repopularisation of Emperor 
Asoka's enigmatic "Nine Unknown Men" (circa 273 B.C., cf.  
Einhorn's trendy new sci-fi "Council of Nine," we find it of 
significant import to note the remarks of that Black Lodge 
paedophilic prick Lt.Col. Mikey Aquino (US Army) on the subject: 

  Temple of Set: Required Reading 
  Updated 4/8/XXV by Mikey Aquino 
  Category 4: Occultism in Contemporary Perspective 

  4B.  _The Morning of the Magicians_ (original French title: _The
  Dawn of Magic_) by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier.  NY; Avon
  Books, 1968.  (CS-3) (OT-1) (TS-1)  "First and best work ever
  done describing the Satanic influence in the world ... This is
  the book that kicked off the occult revival of the 1960s and
  started the whole VonDaniken show on the road.  It highlights
  many phenomena for which non-occultists cannot account [somewhat
  after the fashion of Charles Fort].  Included is an especially
  interesting section on German nazi esoterica, which until recent
  years was virtually the only account of sych material easily
  available to the public.  It is also the only recent book to
  discuss the original Council of Nine (the Nine Unknown)."

All in all, an interesting context in which to re-examine the 
Nine entities so inextricably linked to Gene Roddenberry's 
seminal Star Trekkian memetic injection, we should think.  

Further, it was with no small amount of interest that we noted 
the etymologickal similarities betwixt the twain of Billy Meiers' 
"Pleiadean" Brothress Semjasa (pronounced sem-YASS-ah) and the 
fallen Enochian angel Samyaza (sam-YAZZ-ah) as documented in the 
Laurence transliteration of I Enoch: 


  1. It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those 
     days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.

  2. And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they
     became enamored of them, saying to each other, Come, let us 
     select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let 
     us beget children.  

  3. Then their leader Samyaza (pronounced sam-YAZZ-ah) said to
     them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the 
     performance of this enterprise; 

  4. And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.  

While further on we find these clever discarnates teaching mankind 
all manner of Green NewAge-ism -- from sorcery and the applications
of psychotropic/hallucinogenic plants to occult arcana and the
arts of war.  A truly lovely bunch, these angelick hoodlums.

  9. These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their
     leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel,
     Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel,
     Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal.  These were the prefects of 
     the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.

 10. Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they
     began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching 
     them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and 

 11. And the women conceiving brought forth giants.  



  1. Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields,
     breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship
     of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying
     of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and 
     select kind, and of all sorts of dyes, so that the world 
     became altered.

  2. Impiety increased ; fornication multiplied ; and they 
     transgressed and corrupted all their ways.  

  3. Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots:

  4. Armers taught the solution of sorcery; 

  5. Barkayal taught the observers of the stars 

  6. Akibeel taught signs; 

  7. Tamiel taught astronomy; 

  8. And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon.  

  9. And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached 
     to heaven.  

My, my, my -- how little has changed over the past few millennia,
for the "Council of Nine" continues such to this very day.  Ah well,
"Those who forget history"...etc.  

 "...Further, in light of the messages given by the UFO entities, 
  how credible is it to think that literally thousands of genuine 
  extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light years 
  simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and 
  support the occult?  Why would they do this with the preponderance 
  of such activity already occurring on this planet?  And why would 
  the entities actually possess and inhabit people just like demons 
  do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials?"
 -J. Ankerberg, J. Weldon, _The Facts on UFOs and Other Super-
  natural Phenomena_ 

 "The UFO phenomenon represents a manifestation of a reality that 
  transcends our current understanding of physics ... The UFOs are
  physical manifestations that cannot be understood apart from
  their psychic and symbolic reality.  What we see in effect here
  is not an alien invasion.  It is a control system which acts on
  humans and uses humans."  
 -Jacques Vallee, _Messengers of Deception_ 

 "We are in a symbiotic relationship with something which 
  *disguises* itself as an extraterrestrial invasion so as not 
  to alarm us."
 -Terrence McKenna 

 "Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might
  even be more than life and death.  It might be a struggle for my
  soul, my essence, or whatever part of me might have reference to
  the eternal.  There are worse things than death, I suspected ...
  so far the word demon had never been spoken among the scientists
  and doctors who were working with me ... Alone at night I worried
  about the legendary cunning of demons ... At the very least I was
  going stark, raving mad ... I wondered if I might not be in the
  grip of demons, if they were not making me suffer for their own
  purposes, or simply for their enjoyment ... I felt an absolutely 
  indescribable sense of menace.  It was hell on earth to be there
  [in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn't move, 
  couldn't cry out, couldn't get away.  I'd lay as still as death,
  suffering inner agonies.  Whatever was there seemed so monstrously 
  ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister.  Of course they were 
  demons.  They had to be.  And they were here and I couldn't get 
  away ... Why were my visitors so secretive, hiding themselves 
  behind my consciousness.  I could only conclude that they were 
  using me and did not want me to know why ... What if they were 
  dangerous?  Then I was terribly dangerous because I was playing 
  a role in acclimatizing people to them."
 -Whitley Strieber, "Transformation" 

Lastly, though it would be perhaps unfair to dredge up yet AGAIN 
the quote from Schnabel's heavily sanitised yet still quite 
informative RV book (said quote being vehemently denied by both 
Puthoff and Alexander on numerous occasions), "They [the military] 
were ready to push buttons and drop bombs on the basis of our 
[psychic 'RV'] information," we nevertheless find it relevant to 
note in closing the perspective of neo-Enochian scholar Donald Tyson 
in regards to just how thoroughly we can be manipulated by these 
unimaginably clever discarnate intelligences: 

 "These [Enochian] Calls, which have been demonstrated to be in a
  language possessing a real grammar and syntax, not to mention a
  poetic flair, were said to be the proper conjurations to be used
  to directly contact and influence the angels having control over
  the affairs of our world ... these Calls would enable the magician 
  to do everything from effect cures for diseases to learning the 
  natures of various metals.  In fact, according to the angels, the 
  effect of learning all that they had to teach would be to bring 
  about the overthrow of governments around the world, the 
  'alteration of most states and kingdomes in the World,' and usher 
  in the apocalypse."  

 [see: http://www.brotherblue.org/libers/enoch-ap.htm]

In any event, when cattle graze, an unwanted twig occasionally 
becomes an accidental visitor in the nourishing mouthful of 
grass.  It is at this point that the akashic wisdom of the 
Bovine Collective informs the nosher to retain that which is 
good and spit out only the offending foreign object.  In like 
fashion then, my deare Brethren, let us spit out only that which 
we perceive to be the the twisted twig(s) of paraphrenia yet 
continue to feast upon whatever substance remaineth.  

Ever the voice of sanity from the very edge of the Abyss, we remain; 

-Brother Blue, B:.B:.
"All impressions of Brother Blue are wrong" 
- - - - 

From: CloudRider <CloudRider@aol.com> 
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:08:24 EST 
To: density4@cts.com 
Subject: The Council of Nine 

"The Council of Nine: A Perspective on "Briefings from Deep Space" 

by Dick Farley  <cloudrider@aol.com> 

Copyright 1998 by author.  

The Council of Nine describes themselves, through their two-
decades channeller Phyllis Schlemmer, as "a circle of universal 
beings living outside time and space."  

In the 1993 compendium of their dialogues with various of their 
human questioners, among them Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry 
and many, many others including heads of state and international 
business and philosophical personalities...this group of "off-
planet intelligence complexes" tells their story, which if one 
is to give credence to this process and its information, may be 
to some degree, "our" story also.  If so...

It doesn't matter what we folks at our "retail" level believe 
about this group and their information.  What matters is what 
people with access to power, political machinery and science may 
believe about what is being said...and what they may seek to do 
about it in terms of "planetary deliverance from human ignorance,"
and what voice we may have if we have one at all.  

Evidence is strong that this group underpins very much in the 
realms where "mind-influencing" or "subliminal negotiations" are 
studied and practiced (in areas of foreign relations and for 
arms control & disarmament, and in the fields of intelligence 
gathering & analysis); and for understanding deeper aspects of 
"UFO" and "E.T." experiencing and assessment.  We are certain 
it plays a major role in economics, as planet-level cartels and 
industrialists chart Earth's future, at least as they discern it.

Sound a bit arrogant?  That's what Time Magazine's former 
science editor Leon Jaroff feared when, in the mid 1970s, he 
squashed his magazine's coverage of the Stanford Research 
Institute's (SRI's) work with various psychics, one of whom was 
Uri Geller.  Jaroff could not "allow" for any of it to be real.  

Jim Schnabel mentions this briefly in his 1997 book, "Remote 
Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies" (Dell) 
in a footnote (p. 197), and more about the episode with Time (a 
lot like what happened with the magazine and Dr. John Mack in 
its April 25, 1994 issue, in "The Man From Outer Space").  While 
Schnabel's book has essentially "disappeared," to be replaced by 
CIA disinformation product like David Morehouse's "Psychic 
Warriors" and the ongoing prattlings of former "Grillflame" and 
"PSI-Tech" participant, Maj. Ed Dames, (USA-Ret.), Jim wrote a 
reasonable and generally accurate "alternate history" of what 
non-governmental allies of CIA, DIA and others who played around 
with "these intelligences" (and perhaps got "taken for a ride" 
in more ways than we might think) rather we didn't know.  

Although publicly targeted by "professional skeptics" and a 
cadre of debunkers, the core of whom know very well that "it" is 
real (in some quantum, human-influencing sense), Geller has had 
a long engagement with "The Nine."  They have helped him to 
become wealthy from his "intuitive" assistance to major oil 
drillers and mineral explorers, and he has helped guide their 
decisions.  He reportedly continues selective involvements in 
intelligence and "foreign policy" initiatives for his government 
or elements of that government which agree with "The Nine's" 
viewpoint and, some would argue, accept its "Biblical" guidance. 

When Geller, then a stage magician and "mentalist" playing the 
clubs of Israel and Europe...but occasionally exhibiting the 
truly bizarre psychokinetic traits he is known (and debunked) 
for having...came to the attention of Dr. Andrijah Puharich, 
the "Nine" had found a new voice.  This was in the early 1970s.  
The story suggests that "The Nine" decide who will be the 

According to Puharich's book, "URI," (which is a necessity as a 
piece of data for analysts of the "mind-influencing", UFO/ETI 
and "psi" scenarios)  he (Puharich) had first come across "The 
Nine" when was at Northwestern University medical school and met 
an Indian (East Indian) physician and mystic, who had been in 
contact with these purported "human-guiding entities" for years, 
perhaps in the traditions recent discussed in this (Mind-Control 
list) venue, (i.e., as in Hindu tradition), or perhaps more 

It was "The Nine" to whom Geller referred when he said that his 
powers of PK and clairvoyance came from "a ship out there" and 
that "they" controlled his demonstrations.  SRI found this out, 
and some who were "in the know" then have gone forward to have 
lives at the frontiers of science and technology, just as have 
well-known former CIA personalities known to most of us.  

Much of the work after SRI, later Institute of Noetic Sciences 
sponsored, with tendrils of derivative research and "psi-study" 
now distributed more widely, from Edinborough to Stanford, to 
Princeton, Harvard and Massachussetts Institute of Technology, 
evolved from this earliest work.  And a considerable thrust of 
national and international policy formulations also emerged, 
particularly international environmental governance regimes.  

Before getting too much into the "arcana" of it all, additional 
references might be useful to those who wish to explore this: 

"THE ONLY PLANET OF CHOICE," compiled by psychic Phyllis 
Schlemmer and editor Palden Jenkins, is available from Gateway 
Books, in the U.K., and in the U.S. from the Atrium Publishers 
Group, 11270 Clayton Creek Road, Lower Lake, CA, 95457.  The 
paperback sells for $15.95.  ISBN#1-85860-004-9.  

For a different, very cautious but accepting discussion of the 
Nine and what "their" having the ears of powerful political and 
industrial Earthlings might mean to our future as a society, we 
recommend two books by Dave Hunt, a lay Christian scholar and 
excellent writer who has authored a panoply of frontier books.  

Dave Hunt's "The Archon Conspiracy," still available from 
Harvest House Press (sometimes listed under "high school fiction,")
is available usually through some Christian book stores.  And 
Hunt did an expansion of the concept, which is set at a thinly 
disguised "SRI" (where psychic research is going on and world 
leaders all line up to "hear the messages" via "chosen 
channellers"), in his later "Sanctuary of the Chosen."  In 
recent years, Dave has had some difficulties with the Christian 
book trade because of his "A Woman Rides The Beast," which takes 
a look at the Catholic "Marian worship," suggestive (but not in 
Dave's books) of what occurred at Medjugorge and other "
apparition" sites and, to the serious "UFO scholar," also of 
Billy Meier's contact, "Semjase."  

Back to "The Nine" 

Phyllis Schlemmer, according to stories both about and from her, 
was recognized as a "sensitive" as a child and in her young days,
was sometimes used by local monks to help them learn if people 
coming to them for help were carrying "other entities."  

Schlemmer has most recently resided in Pardes Hanna, Israel and 
Flagler Beach, Florida.  And besides her channelling of "The 
Nine" for wealthy believers, she reportedly has (at times) done 
work for Israeli intelligence, as reportedly has Uri Geller.  Al 
Bielek has been mentioned, too, as loosely being in the same 

Schlemmer's compadre and consort is a man named Israel Carmel 
who, according to friends of Schlemmer and Carmel in Atlanta, 
when they met was working as a lifeguard at an Israeli resort 
Schlemmer was visiting.  "The Nine" told Phyllis that he was to 
be her companion, and so "he is."  He has since been "trained" 
by Phyllis and "The Nine," both as a healer and psychic.  He 
also is a channeller and "transmuter of energy," and he has a 
following in Atlanta and other places where folks who push Al 
Bielek and others in the "MC" genre also know Carmel.  Is this 

Al Bielek's tales about exotic physics and inter-dimensional 
time-travel notwithstanding, it is significant that Andrijah 
Puharich also worked in precisely this field, both as a medical 
doctor and as neurophysicist.  Later on, at The Nine's direction,
Puharich experimented with raising kids in "exceptional" ways, (
the "Super Kids" experiments at his home in Ossinning, New York..
..a place that later mysteriously burned to the ground, and where 
Ira Einhorn had visited often), with CIA "associations" which 
led outside government into the philanthropic lairs of a few 
major international players who also fund "UFOlogy", et al.  

As William Cooper (he of "Pale Horse" notoriety) is writing of 
The Nine, he is well on target if he's discussing that powerful 
and wealthy "movers and shakers" most certainly ARE in their 
loop and taking dictation from, as Time's Leon Jaroff is said to 
have feared, these "entities."  Are these the same who (it has 
been reported) perhaps very widely influenced early proto-Nazi 
AustroGermans, in their search for renewed "sacredness" and a 
recaptured grandeur, but who botched it and gave us a Hitler?  

I want to be clear here, that our reading of "The Nine's" data 
is not suggestive that THEY (if there is a "they") are "Nazis."  
It is the pattern of OUR human societies and evolution that when 
a group of our self-anointed "elite" citizens believe they have 
come into some proprietorship of "revealed truth," which could 
enhance or maintain their perceptions of being "in charge" of 
all the rest of us, they WILL be tempted to "own" these data, as 
well as to interpret it for us.  Our "beliefs" are irrelevant to 

Whether to some "divine right of kings," or "ordained lineages" 
deriving from one prophetic personage or another...be he Dalai 
Lama or "Ascended Master"...our human adventures have always 
progressed either by "overthrowing" these fellows when their 
lust for power and control overwhelms any concerns they may have 
had for their fellow humans and our planet, or knuckling under 
to them and their acolytes, courtiers and benefactors, at least 
until sufficient of "just folks" escape, grow and resurge.  

And "The Nine's" way of doing things may simply not be "ours."  

Consider then, that The Council of Nine has been funded (via the 
work of Phyllis Schlemmer, and the resulting book) by Sir John 
Whitmore. Bt., of the U.K. and others accessing power.  In years 
previous, various occult traditions in various cultures in varied 
stages of societal evolution have manifested similarly, usually at 
the behest of "royal" scholars, magicians, sorcerers. 

In this country, "avatars" like J.J. Hurtak, (who's been 
funded by American believers like Henry Belk, who also had 
something to do with Andrijah Puharich while he lived out his 
last years in North Carolina at the farm of the powerful 
Reynolds family), are carriers of this same kind of "energy" 
with "revelations" of planetary destinies of the sort which 
propelled former Senator Claiborne Pell, (long an advocate and 
friend of Belk's), and UFO funding source Hans Adam II, Prince 
of Liechtenstein and a CIA friend of long standing since his 
father's help fighting Soviets,  at the historical expense of 
his being perceived a sympathizer and hider of Nazi gold, 
according to recent Swiss documents.  It matters, because what 
"elites" do in the dark often devours us.  

Remember, as John Lilly coined..."In the province of the mind 
what one believes to be true...becomes true," (with apologies to 
Dr. Lilly for a butchered paraphrase).  But you get the point?  

Essentially, MOST of the so-called "UFOlogical" run-ups and 
flappings by both "believers" and "skeptics" have devolved into 
a dispute among those who give credence to "The Nine" and are 
well on their way...and have been for YEARS...to implementation 
of their "advice and guidances," (for planetary reorganization); 
and those who are actively and aggressively trying to mount a 
"resistance" to what they (the opposition forces) fear has been 
a misguided, misinterpreted "caving in" to some kind of "viral 
conquest" of our consciousness and culture, outcome unknown.  

It is NOT important what you or I or some "demographic" part of 
our population believes that is of concern or ought to be our 
focus.  It is what powerful, operational "oligarchies" believe 
is our planet's destiny and what they suppose to be their roles 
in shaping it.  Ask them who shape our future what gods they 

Ask what kind of access to governance and planning processes, 
whether through nations, transnational industries or agencies 
such as the United Nations and trade regimes they're working, ...
and who can be held accountable...no matter from "whichever 
planet" or dimensions "they" are getting their guidances...and 
let us determine whether and to what degree humanity will be 
exercising free will (as is a right of all sentient beings), or 
be "happy slaves," surrendering Earth to "Conquest By Consensus,"
(the title of my book about these issues, in progress).  

Before he died, Andrijah Puharich was desperately seeking a 
channel who would help him try to "reach The Nine" again.  In a 
speech at the United Nations in 1980, (to the same group where 
the "Mars Civilization" advocate Richard Hoagland spoke and has 
pumped that fact in his tapes incessantly since then), Dr.  
Puharich had warned of "weather modification" weapons and other 
planetary influencers, which he had suggested were part of 
collaborative efforts by powerful elites on our own "plane" and 
planet, but aided in no small part by insights and technologies 
received from what he had suggested were "exceptional sources."  
And Puharich was scared.  Was he simply paranoid?  Who'll say?  

Another devotee of "The Council of Nine" was the self-styled 
"planetary enzyme" and change-agent, Ira Einhorn, that Unicorn 
of recent news reports about his re-arresting and being freed in 
France.  Einhorn was very much in touch with Puharich and in no 
small way, The Nine, which maintains a working network of 
physicists and psychics, intelligence operatives and powerful 
billionaires, who are less concerned about their "source" and 
its weirdness than they are about having EVERY advantage and new 
data edge in what THEY believe is a battle for Earth itself.  

As Dave Hunt and others discuss, and as in "The Only Planet Of 
Choice" is well defined by The Nine themselves through words of 
The Nine's spokesman, a discarnate entity named "Tom" who in 
turn is communicating through Phyllis Schlemmer, it may indeed 
have been the same "Nine" we are discussing here who also were 
elements of an "interdimensional governance structure"  of 
ancient Athens, in which a council of nine divinely inspired 
"Archons" ruled.  Each Athenian "Nine" supposedly had his own 
aetherial counterpart drawing from the "universal knowledge."  

And in the popular science fiction television program, Babylon 5,
the council on which DeLenn served (they are Nine) operates 
precisely as "The Council of Nine" are described as operating, 
both in their own "writings" and in what is written about them.  

What is fascinating is that many folks currently at the front of 
the United Nations as well as behind the scenes, like "Man of 
Mystery" Canadian tycoon and "operative" Maurice Strong, are so 
deeply involved in the machinations of planetary changing, 
precisely as has been "suggested" by The Council of Nine, that 
public and journalistic incredulity effectively camouflages it.  

The fears of William Cooper and various "militia paranoiacs" of 
"UFO landings" and collaborative hijackings of national rights, 
whom evidence suggests have been "marginalized" and seeded by 
operatives with allegiances if not to "The Council of Nine" 
consciously then to those among powerful cartels and "elites" 
who DO take direction and advice from the interpreters of this 
"ancient Delphic council," are perhaps insufficient to reflect 
what actually is going on.  It is beyond fear.  "They" are doing 

Cooper's information, although certainly distorted by his fear 
and what has happened to him, both by his own hand and choice or 
as his "fault lines" have sometimes been fractured (perhaps in 
cases, intentionally), holds more "truth" than we can accept.  
But our inability to accept or adapt does not make it less true. 

Dick Farley <cloudrider@aol.com> 
(Copyright 1998.  Permission granted to repost, transmit, to copy 
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