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Subject: ::: The Council of Nine :::
All Follow-Up: Re: ::: The Council of Nine :::
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:33:58 GMT
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::: The Council of Nine :::
My Deare Brethren of the Internette;
Below is an insightful commentary from from an east coast
journalist who at one time was affiliated with Laurence
Rockefeller, Dr. C.B. Scott Jones (Aviary) and Senator
Claiborne Pell yet recently is rumoured to hang with various
Congressional oversight committees while maintaining at least
a tenuous tentacle into various intelligence and law-enforcement
orgs. An interesting fellow with a remarkably robust array of
data under his belt.
Brother Dick Farley [IMO rather admirably] continues to whittle
away at the absurd scientologickal facade [i.e. ancient and
enduring occultism cloaked in time- and culture-appropriate
Swannian/Hubbardian pseudo-scientistic technobabble] which
masks the Oz-like discarnate entities who continue pulling the
Bramleyan "custodial" levers and twisting the dials which focus
our perceptual lenses; all the while chanting desperately the
interstitial mantra "Pay no attention to that man behind the
curtain!"; the Roddenberryan "UFO" phantasmagoria thus parading
incessantly before our eager yet alarmingly gullible and myopic
As we note the latter 20th century repopularisation of Emperor
Asoka's enigmatic "Nine Unknown Men" (circa 273 B.C., cf.
Einhorn's trendy new sci-fi "Council of Nine," we find it of
significant import to note the remarks of that Black Lodge
paedophilic prick Lt.Col. Mikey Aquino (US Army) on the subject:
Temple of Set: Required Reading
Updated 4/8/XXV by Mikey Aquino
Category 4: Occultism in Contemporary Perspective
4B. _The Morning of the Magicians_ (original French title: _The
Dawn of Magic_) by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier. NY; Avon
Books, 1968. (CS-3) (OT-1) (TS-1) "First and best work ever
done describing the Satanic influence in the world ... This is
the book that kicked off the occult revival of the 1960s and
started the whole VonDaniken show on the road. It highlights
many phenomena for which non-occultists cannot account [somewhat
after the fashion of Charles Fort]. Included is an especially
interesting section on German nazi esoterica, which until recent
years was virtually the only account of sych material easily
available to the public. It is also the only recent book to
discuss the original Council of Nine (the Nine Unknown)."
All in all, an interesting context in which to re-examine the
Nine entities so inextricably linked to Gene Roddenberry's
seminal Star Trekkian memetic injection, we should think.
Further, it was with no small amount of interest that we noted
the etymologickal similarities betwixt the twain of Billy Meiers'
"Pleiadean" Brothress Semjasa (pronounced sem-YASS-ah) and the
fallen Enochian angel Samyaza (sam-YAZZ-ah) as documented in the
Laurence transliteration of I Enoch:
CHAP. VII. [SECT. II.]
1. It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those
days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.
2. And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them, they
became enamored of them, saying to each other, Come, let us
select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let
us beget children.
3. Then their leader Samyaza (pronounced sam-YAZZ-ah) said to
them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the
performance of this enterprise;
4. And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime.
While further on we find these clever discarnates teaching mankind
all manner of Green NewAge-ism -- from sorcery and the applications
of psychotropic/hallucinogenic plants to occult arcana and the
arts of war. A truly lovely bunch, these angelick hoodlums.
9. These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their
leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel,
Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel,
Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of
the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them.
10. Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they
began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching
them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and
11. And the women conceiving brought forth giants.
1. Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields,
breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship
of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying
of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and
select kind, and of all sorts of dyes, so that the world
2. Impiety increased ; fornication multiplied ; and they
transgressed and corrupted all their ways.
3. Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots:
4. Armers taught the solution of sorcery;
5. Barkayal taught the observers of the stars
6. Akibeel taught signs;
7. Tamiel taught astronomy;
8. And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon.
9. And men, being destroyed, cried out; and their voice reached
My, my, my -- how little has changed over the past few millennia,
for the "Council of Nine" continues such to this very day. Ah well,
"Those who forget history"...etc.
"...Further, in light of the messages given by the UFO entities,
how credible is it to think that literally thousands of genuine
extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light years
simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and
support the occult? Why would they do this with the preponderance
of such activity already occurring on this planet? And why would
the entities actually possess and inhabit people just like demons
do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials?"
-J. Ankerberg, J. Weldon, _The Facts on UFOs and Other Super-
"The UFO phenomenon represents a manifestation of a reality that
transcends our current understanding of physics ... The UFOs are
physical manifestations that cannot be understood apart from
their psychic and symbolic reality. What we see in effect here
is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on
humans and uses humans."
-Jacques Vallee, _Messengers of Deception_
"We are in a symbiotic relationship with something which
*disguises* itself as an extraterrestrial invasion so as not
to alarm us."
"Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might
even be more than life and death. It might be a struggle for my
soul, my essence, or whatever part of me might have reference to
the eternal. There are worse things than death, I suspected ...
so far the word demon had never been spoken among the scientists
and doctors who were working with me ... Alone at night I worried
about the legendary cunning of demons ... At the very least I was
going stark, raving mad ... I wondered if I might not be in the
grip of demons, if they were not making me suffer for their own
purposes, or simply for their enjoyment ... I felt an absolutely
indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on earth to be there
[in the presence of the entities], and yet I couldn't move,
couldn't cry out, couldn't get away. I'd lay as still as death,
suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so monstrously
ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were
demons. They had to be. And they were here and I couldn't get
away ... Why were my visitors so secretive, hiding themselves
behind my consciousness. I could only conclude that they were
using me and did not want me to know why ... What if they were
dangerous? Then I was terribly dangerous because I was playing
a role in acclimatizing people to them."
-Whitley Strieber, "Transformation"
Lastly, though it would be perhaps unfair to dredge up yet AGAIN
the quote from Schnabel's heavily sanitised yet still quite
informative RV book (said quote being vehemently denied by both
Puthoff and Alexander on numerous occasions), "They [the military]
were ready to push buttons and drop bombs on the basis of our
[psychic 'RV'] information," we nevertheless find it relevant to
note in closing the perspective of neo-Enochian scholar Donald Tyson
in regards to just how thoroughly we can be manipulated by these
unimaginably clever discarnate intelligences:
"These [Enochian] Calls, which have been demonstrated to be in a
language possessing a real grammar and syntax, not to mention a
poetic flair, were said to be the proper conjurations to be used
to directly contact and influence the angels having control over
the affairs of our world ... these Calls would enable the magician
to do everything from effect cures for diseases to learning the
natures of various metals. In fact, according to the angels, the
effect of learning all that they had to teach would be to bring
about the overthrow of governments around the world, the
'alteration of most states and kingdomes in the World,' and usher
in the apocalypse."
In any event, when cattle graze, an unwanted twig occasionally
becomes an accidental visitor in the nourishing mouthful of
grass. It is at this point that the akashic wisdom of the
Bovine Collective informs the nosher to retain that which is
good and spit out only the offending foreign object. In like
fashion then, my deare Brethren, let us spit out only that which
we perceive to be the the twisted twig(s) of paraphrenia yet
continue to feast upon whatever substance remaineth.
Ever the voice of sanity from the very edge of the Abyss, we remain;
-Brother Blue, B:.B:.
"All impressions of Brother Blue are wrong"
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From: CloudRider <CloudRider@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:08:24 EST
Subject: The Council of Nine
"The Council of Nine: A Perspective on "Briefings from Deep Space"
by Dick Farley <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Copyright 1998 by author.
The Council of Nine describes themselves, through their two-
decades channeller Phyllis Schlemmer, as "a circle of universal
beings living outside time and space."
In the 1993 compendium of their dialogues with various of their
human questioners, among them Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry
and many, many others including heads of state and international
business and philosophical personalities...this group of "off-
planet intelligence complexes" tells their story, which if one
is to give credence to this process and its information, may be
to some degree, "our" story also. If so...
It doesn't matter what we folks at our "retail" level believe
about this group and their information. What matters is what
people with access to power, political machinery and science may
believe about what is being said...and what they may seek to do
about it in terms of "planetary deliverance from human ignorance,"
and what voice we may have if we have one at all.
Evidence is strong that this group underpins very much in the
realms where "mind-influencing" or "subliminal negotiations" are
studied and practiced (in areas of foreign relations and for
arms control & disarmament, and in the fields of intelligence
gathering & analysis); and for understanding deeper aspects of
"UFO" and "E.T." experiencing and assessment. We are certain
it plays a major role in economics, as planet-level cartels and
industrialists chart Earth's future, at least as they discern it.
Sound a bit arrogant? That's what Time Magazine's former
science editor Leon Jaroff feared when, in the mid 1970s, he
squashed his magazine's coverage of the Stanford Research
Institute's (SRI's) work with various psychics, one of whom was
Uri Geller. Jaroff could not "allow" for any of it to be real.
Jim Schnabel mentions this briefly in his 1997 book, "Remote
Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies" (Dell)
in a footnote (p. 197), and more about the episode with Time (a
lot like what happened with the magazine and Dr. John Mack in
its April 25, 1994 issue, in "The Man From Outer Space"). While
Schnabel's book has essentially "disappeared," to be replaced by
CIA disinformation product like David Morehouse's "Psychic
Warriors" and the ongoing prattlings of former "Grillflame" and
"PSI-Tech" participant, Maj. Ed Dames, (USA-Ret.), Jim wrote a
reasonable and generally accurate "alternate history" of what
non-governmental allies of CIA, DIA and others who played around
with "these intelligences" (and perhaps got "taken for a ride"
in more ways than we might think) rather we didn't know.
Although publicly targeted by "professional skeptics" and a
cadre of debunkers, the core of whom know very well that "it" is
real (in some quantum, human-influencing sense), Geller has had
a long engagement with "The Nine." They have helped him to
become wealthy from his "intuitive" assistance to major oil
drillers and mineral explorers, and he has helped guide their
decisions. He reportedly continues selective involvements in
intelligence and "foreign policy" initiatives for his government
or elements of that government which agree with "The Nine's"
viewpoint and, some would argue, accept its "Biblical" guidance.
When Geller, then a stage magician and "mentalist" playing the
clubs of Israel and Europe...but occasionally exhibiting the
truly bizarre psychokinetic traits he is known (and debunked)
for having...came to the attention of Dr. Andrijah Puharich,
the "Nine" had found a new voice. This was in the early 1970s.
The story suggests that "The Nine" decide who will be the
According to Puharich's book, "URI," (which is a necessity as a
piece of data for analysts of the "mind-influencing", UFO/ETI
and "psi" scenarios) he (Puharich) had first come across "The
Nine" when was at Northwestern University medical school and met
an Indian (East Indian) physician and mystic, who had been in
contact with these purported "human-guiding entities" for years,
perhaps in the traditions recent discussed in this (Mind-Control
list) venue, (i.e., as in Hindu tradition), or perhaps more
It was "The Nine" to whom Geller referred when he said that his
powers of PK and clairvoyance came from "a ship out there" and
that "they" controlled his demonstrations. SRI found this out,
and some who were "in the know" then have gone forward to have
lives at the frontiers of science and technology, just as have
well-known former CIA personalities known to most of us.
Much of the work after SRI, later Institute of Noetic Sciences
sponsored, with tendrils of derivative research and "psi-study"
now distributed more widely, from Edinborough to Stanford, to
Princeton, Harvard and Massachussetts Institute of Technology,
evolved from this earliest work. And a considerable thrust of
national and international policy formulations also emerged,
particularly international environmental governance regimes.
Before getting too much into the "arcana" of it all, additional
references might be useful to those who wish to explore this:
"THE ONLY PLANET OF CHOICE," compiled by psychic Phyllis
Schlemmer and editor Palden Jenkins, is available from Gateway
Books, in the U.K., and in the U.S. from the Atrium Publishers
Group, 11270 Clayton Creek Road, Lower Lake, CA, 95457. The
paperback sells for $15.95. ISBN#1-85860-004-9.
For a different, very cautious but accepting discussion of the
Nine and what "their" having the ears of powerful political and
industrial Earthlings might mean to our future as a society, we
recommend two books by Dave Hunt, a lay Christian scholar and
excellent writer who has authored a panoply of frontier books.
Dave Hunt's "The Archon Conspiracy," still available from
Harvest House Press (sometimes listed under "high school fiction,")
is available usually through some Christian book stores. And
Hunt did an expansion of the concept, which is set at a thinly
disguised "SRI" (where psychic research is going on and world
leaders all line up to "hear the messages" via "chosen
channellers"), in his later "Sanctuary of the Chosen." In
recent years, Dave has had some difficulties with the Christian
book trade because of his "A Woman Rides The Beast," which takes
a look at the Catholic "Marian worship," suggestive (but not in
Dave's books) of what occurred at Medjugorge and other "
apparition" sites and, to the serious "UFO scholar," also of
Billy Meier's contact, "Semjase."
Back to "The Nine"
Phyllis Schlemmer, according to stories both about and from her,
was recognized as a "sensitive" as a child and in her young days,
was sometimes used by local monks to help them learn if people
coming to them for help were carrying "other entities."
Schlemmer has most recently resided in Pardes Hanna, Israel and
Flagler Beach, Florida. And besides her channelling of "The
Nine" for wealthy believers, she reportedly has (at times) done
work for Israeli intelligence, as reportedly has Uri Geller. Al
Bielek has been mentioned, too, as loosely being in the same
Schlemmer's compadre and consort is a man named Israel Carmel
who, according to friends of Schlemmer and Carmel in Atlanta,
when they met was working as a lifeguard at an Israeli resort
Schlemmer was visiting. "The Nine" told Phyllis that he was to
be her companion, and so "he is." He has since been "trained"
by Phyllis and "The Nine," both as a healer and psychic. He
also is a channeller and "transmuter of energy," and he has a
following in Atlanta and other places where folks who push Al
Bielek and others in the "MC" genre also know Carmel. Is this
Al Bielek's tales about exotic physics and inter-dimensional
time-travel notwithstanding, it is significant that Andrijah
Puharich also worked in precisely this field, both as a medical
doctor and as neurophysicist. Later on, at The Nine's direction,
Puharich experimented with raising kids in "exceptional" ways, (
the "Super Kids" experiments at his home in Ossinning, New York..
..a place that later mysteriously burned to the ground, and where
Ira Einhorn had visited often), with CIA "associations" which
led outside government into the philanthropic lairs of a few
major international players who also fund "UFOlogy", et al.
As William Cooper (he of "Pale Horse" notoriety) is writing of
The Nine, he is well on target if he's discussing that powerful
and wealthy "movers and shakers" most certainly ARE in their
loop and taking dictation from, as Time's Leon Jaroff is said to
have feared, these "entities." Are these the same who (it has
been reported) perhaps very widely influenced early proto-Nazi
AustroGermans, in their search for renewed "sacredness" and a
recaptured grandeur, but who botched it and gave us a Hitler?
I want to be clear here, that our reading of "The Nine's" data
is not suggestive that THEY (if there is a "they") are "Nazis."
It is the pattern of OUR human societies and evolution that when
a group of our self-anointed "elite" citizens believe they have
come into some proprietorship of "revealed truth," which could
enhance or maintain their perceptions of being "in charge" of
all the rest of us, they WILL be tempted to "own" these data, as
well as to interpret it for us. Our "beliefs" are irrelevant to
Whether to some "divine right of kings," or "ordained lineages"
deriving from one prophetic personage or another...be he Dalai
Lama or "Ascended Master"...our human adventures have always
progressed either by "overthrowing" these fellows when their
lust for power and control overwhelms any concerns they may have
had for their fellow humans and our planet, or knuckling under
to them and their acolytes, courtiers and benefactors, at least
until sufficient of "just folks" escape, grow and resurge.
And "The Nine's" way of doing things may simply not be "ours."
Consider then, that The Council of Nine has been funded (via the
work of Phyllis Schlemmer, and the resulting book) by Sir John
Whitmore. Bt., of the U.K. and others accessing power. In years
previous, various occult traditions in various cultures in varied
stages of societal evolution have manifested similarly, usually at
the behest of "royal" scholars, magicians, sorcerers.
In this country, "avatars" like J.J. Hurtak, (who's been
funded by American believers like Henry Belk, who also had
something to do with Andrijah Puharich while he lived out his
last years in North Carolina at the farm of the powerful
Reynolds family), are carriers of this same kind of "energy"
with "revelations" of planetary destinies of the sort which
propelled former Senator Claiborne Pell, (long an advocate and
friend of Belk's), and UFO funding source Hans Adam II, Prince
of Liechtenstein and a CIA friend of long standing since his
father's help fighting Soviets, at the historical expense of
his being perceived a sympathizer and hider of Nazi gold,
according to recent Swiss documents. It matters, because what
"elites" do in the dark often devours us.
Remember, as John Lilly coined..."In the province of the mind
what one believes to be true...becomes true," (with apologies to
Dr. Lilly for a butchered paraphrase). But you get the point?
Essentially, MOST of the so-called "UFOlogical" run-ups and
flappings by both "believers" and "skeptics" have devolved into
a dispute among those who give credence to "The Nine" and are
well on their way...and have been for YEARS...to implementation
of their "advice and guidances," (for planetary reorganization);
and those who are actively and aggressively trying to mount a
"resistance" to what they (the opposition forces) fear has been
a misguided, misinterpreted "caving in" to some kind of "viral
conquest" of our consciousness and culture, outcome unknown.
It is NOT important what you or I or some "demographic" part of
our population believes that is of concern or ought to be our
focus. It is what powerful, operational "oligarchies" believe
is our planet's destiny and what they suppose to be their roles
in shaping it. Ask them who shape our future what gods they
Ask what kind of access to governance and planning processes,
whether through nations, transnational industries or agencies
such as the United Nations and trade regimes they're working, ...
and who can be held accountable...no matter from "whichever
planet" or dimensions "they" are getting their guidances...and
let us determine whether and to what degree humanity will be
exercising free will (as is a right of all sentient beings), or
be "happy slaves," surrendering Earth to "Conquest By Consensus,"
(the title of my book about these issues, in progress).
Before he died, Andrijah Puharich was desperately seeking a
channel who would help him try to "reach The Nine" again. In a
speech at the United Nations in 1980, (to the same group where
the "Mars Civilization" advocate Richard Hoagland spoke and has
pumped that fact in his tapes incessantly since then), Dr.
Puharich had warned of "weather modification" weapons and other
planetary influencers, which he had suggested were part of
collaborative efforts by powerful elites on our own "plane" and
planet, but aided in no small part by insights and technologies
received from what he had suggested were "exceptional sources."
And Puharich was scared. Was he simply paranoid? Who'll say?
Another devotee of "The Council of Nine" was the self-styled
"planetary enzyme" and change-agent, Ira Einhorn, that Unicorn
of recent news reports about his re-arresting and being freed in
France. Einhorn was very much in touch with Puharich and in no
small way, The Nine, which maintains a working network of
physicists and psychics, intelligence operatives and powerful
billionaires, who are less concerned about their "source" and
its weirdness than they are about having EVERY advantage and new
data edge in what THEY believe is a battle for Earth itself.
As Dave Hunt and others discuss, and as in "The Only Planet Of
Choice" is well defined by The Nine themselves through words of
The Nine's spokesman, a discarnate entity named "Tom" who in
turn is communicating through Phyllis Schlemmer, it may indeed
have been the same "Nine" we are discussing here who also were
elements of an "interdimensional governance structure" of
ancient Athens, in which a council of nine divinely inspired
"Archons" ruled. Each Athenian "Nine" supposedly had his own
aetherial counterpart drawing from the "universal knowledge."
And in the popular science fiction television program, Babylon 5,
the council on which DeLenn served (they are Nine) operates
precisely as "The Council of Nine" are described as operating,
both in their own "writings" and in what is written about them.
What is fascinating is that many folks currently at the front of
the United Nations as well as behind the scenes, like "Man of
Mystery" Canadian tycoon and "operative" Maurice Strong, are so
deeply involved in the machinations of planetary changing,
precisely as has been "suggested" by The Council of Nine, that
public and journalistic incredulity effectively camouflages it.
The fears of William Cooper and various "militia paranoiacs" of
"UFO landings" and collaborative hijackings of national rights,
whom evidence suggests have been "marginalized" and seeded by
operatives with allegiances if not to "The Council of Nine"
consciously then to those among powerful cartels and "elites"
who DO take direction and advice from the interpreters of this
"ancient Delphic council," are perhaps insufficient to reflect
what actually is going on. It is beyond fear. "They" are doing
Cooper's information, although certainly distorted by his fear
and what has happened to him, both by his own hand and choice or
as his "fault lines" have sometimes been fractured (perhaps in
cases, intentionally), holds more "truth" than we can accept.
But our inability to accept or adapt does not make it less true.
Dick Farley <email@example.com>
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