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  Msg#: 37087                                        Date: 09-21-96  15:48
  From: Marilyn Burge                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Sean Mccullough                              Mark:                     
  Subj: a few little details
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OOOOOps!  I see the first part of the two posts got chopped off.
I'll resend them.

Subject: Innocents Murdered by the Church...
Sender: news@PA.dec.com (News)
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Date: 27 DEC 91 11:00:00 MDT

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Message #967 - METAPHYSICAL 
   Date : 31-Oct-91 09:58
   From : the Bard
     To : All
Subject : 1 Lest We Forget

AREA:METAPHYSICAL

                                *                      last update: 11\15\90 
  
                    THE KILLINGS OF "WITCHES" 
 
The following are all documented incidents in the killings of
"witches."  ONLY incidents solely relating to witchcraft accusations
have been included. Bear in mind that this is probably NOT all of
them. Some were guilty. Most were probably innocent. Some were
Satanists, others were not. Some were just senile. ALL on this list
died as a result of a witchcraft accusation.
 
                        ****************** 
                                 
 Adamson, Francis: executed at Durham, England, in 1652 
 Albano, Peter of: died in prison circa 1310 
 Allen, Joan: hanged at the Old Bailey, London, England, in 1650 
 Allen, Jonet: burned in Scotland in 1661 
 Amalaric, Madeline: burned in France in mid-1500's 
 Ancker, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Andrius, Barthelemy: burned at Carcassonne, France in 1330 
 Andrius, Jean: burned at Carcassonne, France in 1330 
 Andrius, Phillippe: burned at Carcassonne, France in 1330 
 Arnold, (first name unknown): hanged at Barking, England, in 1574 
 d'Arc, Joan: burned at Rouen, France, on 30 May, 1431 (note: the witchcraft 
              charge in this case was -implied- and not specific) 
 Ashby, Anne: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Askew, Anne: burned for witchcraft 1546 
 Audibert, Etienne: condemned for witchcraft in France, on 20 March 1619 
 Aupetit, Pierre: burned at Bordeaux, France, in 1598 
 
 
Babel, Zuickel: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629
 Babel, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Baker, Anne: executed in Leicester, England, in 1619 
 Balcoin, Marie: burned in the reign of Henry IV of France 
 Balcoin, Marie: burned in the reign of Henry IV of France 
 Balfour, Alison: burned at Edinburgh, Scotland, on 16 December, 1594 
 Bannach, (husband) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,  
          1628-1629 
 Bannach, (wife) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,
1628-1629 
 Barber, Mary: executed in Northhampton, England, on 22 July, 1612 
 Barker, Janet: burned in Scotland in 1643 
 Baroni, Catterina: beheaded and burned at Castelnovo, Italy, on 14 April,
1647 
 Barthe, Angela de la: burned at Toulouse, France, in 1275 
 Barton, William: executed in Scotland (year unknown) 
 Basser, Fredrick: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Batsch, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Bayerin, Anna: executed at Salzburg, Austria, in 1751 
 Beaumont, Sieur de: accused of witchcraft on 21 October, 1596 
 Bebelin, Gabriel: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Beck, Viertel: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Beck, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Belon, Jean: executed in France, in 1597 
 Berger, Christopher: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Berrye, Agnes: hanged at Enfield, England, in 1616 
Bentz, (mother) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,
1628-1629 
 Bentz, (daughter) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,  
        1628-1629 
 Beuchel, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1581 
 Beutler, (first name unknown) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Bill, Arthur: executed in Northhampton, England, on 22 July, 1612 
 Birenseng, Agata: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 25 June, 1594 
 Bishop, Briget: hanged at Salem, New England on 10 June, 1692 
 Bodenham, Anne: hanged at Salisbury, England, in 1653 
 Bonnet, Jean: burned alive at Boissy-en-Ferez, France, in 1583 
 Boram, (mother) (first name unknown): hung at Bury St Edmunds, England, in  
        1655 
 Boram, (daughter) (first name unknown): hung at Bury St Edmunds, England, in  
        1655 
 Bolingbroke, Roger: hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn, England, on 18 
                     November, 1441 
 Boulay, Anne: burned at Nancy, France, in 1620 
 Boulle, Thomas: burned alive at Rouen, France, on 21 August, 1647 
 Bowman, Janet: burned in Scotland in 1572 
 Bragadini, Mark Antony: beheaded in Italy in the 1500's 
 Brickmann, (first name unknown) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
Brose, Elizabeth: tortured to death in the castle of Gommern, Germany, on
                   4 November, 1660 
 Brown, Janet: burned in Scotland in 1643 
 Browne, Agnes: executed in Northhampton, England, on 22 July, 1612 
 Browne, Joan: executed in Northhampton, England, on 22 July, 1612 
 Browne, Mary: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Brooks, Jane: hanged in England on 26 March, 1658 
 Brugh, John: burned in Scotland in 1643 
 Buckh, Appollonia: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1581 
 Bugler, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Bulcock, John: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Bulcock, Jane: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Bull, Edmund: hanged at Taunton, England, in 1631 
 Bulmer, Matthew: hanged at Newcastle, England, in 1649 
 Burroughs, George: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 August, 1692 
 Bursten-Binderin, (first name unknown) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628- 
                   1629 
 
 
 Calles, Helen: executed at Braynford, England, on 1 December, 1595 
 Camelli, Domenica: beheaded and burned at Castelnovo, Italy, on 14 April,
1647 
Canzler, (first name unknown) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629
 Carrier, Martha: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 August, 1692 
 Caveden, Lucia: beheaded and burned at Castelnovo, Italy, on 14 April, 1647 
 Cemola, Zinevra: beheaded and burned at Castelnovo, Italy, on 14 April, 1647 
 Corey, Martha: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Corey, Giles: prssed to death at Salem, New England, on 19 September, 1692 
 Corset, Janet: killed by a mob at Pittenweem, Scotland, in 1704 
 Challiot, (first name unknown): murdered at St. Georges, France, in February, 

           1922 
 Chalmers, Bessie: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 Chambers, (first name unknown): died in prison, in England, in 1693 
 Chamoulliard, (first name unknown): burned in France, in 1597 
 de Chantraine, Anne: burned as a witch in Waret-la-Chaussee, France, on  
                      October 17, 1622 
 Chatto, Marioun: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 Ciceron, Andre: burned alive at Carcassone, France, in 1335 
 Cockie, Isabel: burnt as a witch, at a cost of 105 s. 4 p., in England 1596 
 Cox, Julian: executed at Taunton, England, in 1663 
 Couper, Marable: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Craw, William: burned in Scotland in 1680 
 Crots, (son) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Cullender, Rose: executed at Bury St Edmunds, England, on 17 March 1664 
 Cumlaquoy, Marian: burned at Orkney, Scotland in 1643 
 Cunningham, John: burned at Edinburgh, in January, 1591 
 Cunny, Joan: hanged in Chelmsford, England, in 1589 

 Deiner, Hans: burned at Waldsee, Germany (year unknown) 
 Delort, Catherine: burned at Toulouse, France, in 1335 
 Demdike, Elizabeth: convicted, but died in prison, in Lancaster, England,  
                     in 1612 
 DeMolay, Jacques: Grand Master of the Templars, burned in France on  
                   22 March 1312 
 Desbordes, (first name unknown): burned in France, in 1628 
 Deshayes, Catherine: burned on 22 February, 1680 
 Device, Elizabeth: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Device, James: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Device, Alizon: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Doree, Catherine: executed at Courveres, France, in 1577 
 Dorlady, Mansfredo: burned at Vesoul, France as being the Devil's banker, on 
                     18 January, 1610 
 Dorlady, Fernando: burned at Vesoul, France as being the Devil's banker, on 
                    18 January, 1610 
 Dormar, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 October, 1586 
 Douglas, Janet: burned at Castle, Hill, Scotland, on 17 July, 1557 
 Drummond, Alexander: executed in Edinburgh, Scotland, in 1670 
 "Dummy" (name unknown; he was deaf-and-dumb): killed by a mob at Sible 
         Hedingham, England, on 3 August, 1865 
Duncan, Gellie: hanged in Scotland in 1591
 Dunhome, Margaret: burned in Scotland (year unknown) 
 Dunlop, Bessie: burned at Castle Hill, Edinburgh, Scotland, in 1576 
 Duny, Amy: executed at Bury St Edmunds, England, on 17 March, 1664 
 Dyneis, Jonka: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Easty, Mary: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Echtinger, Barbara: imprisoned for life at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 August,  
                     1545 
 Edelfrau, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Edwards, Susanna: hanged at Bideford, England in 1682 
 Einseler, Catharina: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 6 July, 1581 
 Erb, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 March, 1586 
 Eyering, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 Fian, John: hanged at Edinburgh, Scotland, in 1591 
 Fief, Mary le: of Samur, France, accused of witchcraft, on 13 October 1573 
 Fleischbaum, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Flieger, Catharina: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 6 July, 1581 
 Flower, Joan: died before trial, at Lincoln, England, 1619 
 Flower, Margaret: executed at Lincoln, England, in March, 1619 
 Flower, Phillippa: executed at Lincoln, England, in March, 1619 
 Foster, Anne: hanged at Northhampton, England, in 1674 
 Fray, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 12 June, 1587 
 Fray, Margaret: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 25 June, 1594 
 Fynnie, Agnes: burned in Scotland in 1643 

 Gabley, (first name unknown): executed at King's Lynn, England, in 1582 
 Galigai, Leonora: beheaded at the Place de Grieve, France, on 8 July, 1617 
 Garnier, Gilles: burned as a werewolf in Dole, France 1574 
 Gaufridi, Louis: burned at Marseilles, France, at 5:00 pm on 30 April, 1611 
 Geissler, Clara: strangled at Gelnhausen, Germany circa 1630 
 Georgel, Anna Marie de: burned at Toulouse, France, in 1335 
 Geraud, Hughes: burned in France in 1317 
 Gering, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Glaser, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Glover, Goody: hanged at Salem, New England, in 1688 
 Gobel, Barbara: burned at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1639 
 Goeldi, Anna: hanged at Glaris, Switzerland, on 17 June, 1782 
 Goldschmidt, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Good, Sarah: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 July, 1692 
 Grandier, Urbain, burned at Loudon, France, on 18 August, 1634 
 Goodridge, Alse: executed at Darbie, England, in 1597 
 Gratiadei, Domenica: beheaded and burned at Castelnovo, Italy, on 14 April,  
                      1647 
 Green, Ellen: executed in Leicester, England, in 1619 
 Greensmith, (first name unknown): hanged in Hartford, New England, on 20 
             January, 1662 
Greland, Jean: burned at Chamonix, France, in 1438, with 10 others
 Grierson, Isobel: burned in Scotland in March, 1607 
 Gutbrod, (first name unknown:) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 Haan, George: burned at Bamberg, Germany, circa 1626, with his wife,
       daughter, and son
 Hacket, Margaret: executed at Tyburn, England, on 19 February, 1585 
 Hamilton, Margaret: burned in Scotland in 1680 
 Hafner, (son) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hammellmann, Melchoir: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hamyltoun, Christiane: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 Hans, David: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hans, Kilian: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Harfner, (first name unknown): hanged herself in the prison of Bamberg,  
          1628-1629 
 Harlow, Bessie: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 Harrisson, Joanna, and her daughter: executed in Hertford, England, in 1606 
 Harvilliers, Jeanne: executed in France, in 1578 
 Haus, (wife) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hennot, Catherine: burned alive in Germany in 1627 
 Henry III, King of France: assassinated on 1 August, 1589 
 Hewitt, Katherine: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Hezensohn, Joachim: beheaded at Waldsee, Germany, in 1557 
 Hibbins, Anne: hanged in Boston, Massachusetts on 19 June, 1656 
Hirsch, Nicodemus: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629
 Hoecker, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hofschmidt, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Holtzmann, Stoffel: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hofseiler, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Hoppo, (first name unknown): executed in Germany in 1599 
 How, Elizabeth: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 July, 1692 
 Hoyd, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 November, 1586 
 Huebmeyer, Barbara: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 11 September, 1589 
 Huebmeyer, Appela: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 11 September, 1589 
 Hunt, Joan: hanged in Middlesex, England in 1615 
 Hunter, Alexander: burned at Edinburgh, Scotland, in 1629 
 Huxley, Catherine: hanged at Worcester, England in the summer of 1652 
 
 
 Isel, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 7 November, 1586 
 Isolin, Madlen: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 6 July, 1581 
 
 
 Jacobs, George: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 August, 1692 
 Jenkenson, Helen: executed in Northhampton, England, on 22 July, 1612 
 Jennin, (first name unknown): burned at Cambrai, France, in 1460 
Jollie, Alison: executed in Scotland, in October, 1596
 Jones, Katherine: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Jones, Margaret: executed in Charlestown, North America, on 15 June, 1648 
 Jordemaine, Margery: burned at Smithfield, England, on 27 October, 1441 
 Junius, Johannes: of Bamberg, executed as a witch, on 6 August, 1628 
 Jung, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 
 Kent, Margaret: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 Kerke, Anne: executed at Tyburn, England, in 1599 
 Kleiss, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 30 October, 1586 
 Kless, Catharina: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 12 June, 1587 
 Knertz, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Knor, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Knott, Elizabeth: hanged at St. Albans, England, in 1649 
 Kramerin, Schelmerey: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Kuhnlin, Elsa: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1518 
 Kuler, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 
 Lachenmeyer, Waldburg: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 5 July, 1585 
 deLarue, (first name unknown): burned at Rouen, in 1540 
 Lauder, Margaret: burned in Scotland in 1643 
 Leclerc, (no first name given): condemned for witchcraft, in France 1615 
 Lakeland, (first name unknown): burned at Ipswich, England, in 1645 
Lamb, Dr.: stoned to death by a mob at St. Paul's Cross, London, England,
            in 1640 
 Lambrecht, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Leger, (no first name given): condemmned for witchcraft in France, on 6 May,  
                               1616 
 Liebler, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Lloyd, Temperance: hanged at Bideford, England in 1682 
 Louis, (first name unknown): executed at Suffolk, England, in 1646 
 Lowes, John: hanged at Bury, England, about 1645 
 Lutz, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 
 Macalzean, Euphemia: burned alive in Scotland for witchcraft, on 25 June,
1591 
 Marigny, Enguerrand de: hanged in France in 1315 
 Marguerite, (last name unknown): burned at Paris, France, in 1586 
 Mark, Bernhard: burned alive at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Martin, Marie: executed in France, in 1586 
 Martin, Susannah: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 July, 1692 
 Martyn, Anne: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Mayer, Christina: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 October, 1586 
 Mazelier, Hanchemand de: arrested at Neuchatel, Germany 1439 
Meath, Petronilla de: burned as a witch, the first such burning in Ireland,
                       on 3 November, 1324 
 Meyer, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Mirot, Dominic: burned at Paris, France, in 1586 
 Morin< (first name unknown): burned at Rouen, in 1540 
 Mossau, Renata von: beheaded and burned in Bavaria, Germany, on 21 June, 1749 

 Mullerin, Elsbet: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1531 
 Mundie, Beatrice: tried for witchcraft in Inverkiething, Scotland 1621 
 
 
 Napier, Barbara: hanged in Scotland in 1591 
 Nathan, Abraham: executed at Haeck, Germany, on 24 September, 1772 
 Newell, John: executed at Barnett, England, on 1 December, 1595 
 Newell, Joane: executed at Barnett, England, on 1 December, 1595 
 Newman, Elizabeth: executed at Whitechapel, England in 1653 
 Nottingham, John of: died in custody, Coventry, England, 1324 
 Nurse, Rebecca: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 July, 1692 
 Nutter, Alice: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Oliver, Mary: burned at Norwich, England, in 1658 
 Orchard, (first name unknown): executed at Salisbury, England, in 1658 
 Osborne, (husband) (first name unknown): killed by a mob at Tring,  
                    Herefordshire, England, in 1751 
 Osborne, (wife) Ruth: killed by a mob at Tring, Herefordshire, England, in  
                       1751 
 Osburne, Sarah: died in prison at Boston, Massachusetts, 10 May, 1692 
Oswald, Catherine: burned in Scotland in 1670
 
 Paeffin, Elsa: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1518 
 Pajot, Marguerite: executed at Tonnerre, France, in 1576 

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  Msg#: 37086                                        Date: 09-21-96  15:24
  From: Marilyn Burge                                Read: Yes    Replied: No 
    To: Sean Mccullough                              Mark:                     
  Subj: a few little details
ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
ce, in 1576 
 Paris, (first name unknown): hanged at St. Andrews, Scotland, in 1569 
 Parker, Alice: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Parker, Mary: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Palmer, John: hanged at St. Albans, England, in 1649 
 Pannel, Mary: executed in Yorkshire, England, in 1603 
 Pannel, Mary: executed in Yorkshire, England, in 1603 
 Pearson, Alison: burned in Scotland on 28 May, 1588 
 Peebles, Marion: burned in Scotland in 1643 
 Peterson, Joan: hanged at Tyburn, England, in April, 1652 
 Pichler, Emerenziana: burned at Defereggen, Germany, on 25 September, 1680 
          (her two sons, aged 12 and 14, were also burned two days later) 
 Poiret, (first name unknown): burned at Nancy, France, in 1620 
 Pomp, Anna: executed at Lindheim, Germany, in 1633 
 Porte, Vidal de la: condemned at Riom, France, in 1597 
 Powle, (first name unknown): executed at Durham, England, in 1652 
 Prentice, Joan: hanged in Chelmsford, England, in 1589 
 Preston, Jennet: executed in York, England, in 1612 
 Pringle, Margaret: burned in Scotland in 1680 
 Procter, John: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 August, 1692 
Pudeator, Anne: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692
 
 Quattrino, Dominic: burned at Mesolcina, Italy, in 1583 
 
 Rais, Gilles de: on charges of witchcraft, executed 26 October, 1440 
 Rattray, George: executed in Spott, Scotland, in 1705 
 Rattray, Lachlan: executed in Spott, Scotland, in 1705 
 Rauffains, Catharina: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 7 November, 1586 
 Reade, Mary: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Reade, Mary: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Redfearne, Anne: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Reed, Wilmot: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Reich, Maria: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 5 July, 1585 
 Reid, John: hanged himself in prison, in Scotland, in 1697 
 Reoch, Elspeth: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Robey, Isobel: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Rodier, Catala: burned alive at Carcassone, France, in 1335 
 Rodier, Paul: burned alive at Carcassone, France, in 1335 
 Rohrfelder, Margaret: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 August, 1585 
 Rosch, Maria: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 6 July, 1581 
 Rosseau, (no first name given), and his daughter, (no name given) of France,  
          accused of witchcraft on 2 October 1593 
 Rue, Abel de la: of Coulommiers, France, accused of witchcraft on 20 July,  
                 1592
 Roulet, Jacques: burned alive for being a were-wolf, at Angiers, France, in  
                  1597 
Rum, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629
 Russel, Alice: killed by a mob at Great Paxton, England, 20 May, 1808 
 Rutchser, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Rutter, Elizabeth: hanged in Middlesex, England in 1616 
 
 Sailler, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 August, 1585 
 Sailler, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 August, 1585 
 Sampsoune, Agnes: tried, strangled, and burnt for a witch in Scotland 1591 
 Samuels, (family): three members condemned for witchcraft in Warboys,  
                    England, on 4 April, 1593 
 Sawyer, Elizabeth, hanged at Tyburn, England, on 19 April, 1621 
 Scharber, Elsbeth: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1581 
 Schneider, Felicitas: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 March, 1586 
 Schnelling, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 11 September, 1589 
 Schutz, Babel: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schwaegel, Anna Maria: beheaded at Kempten, Germany, on 11 April, 1775 
 Schwartz, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schenck, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schellhar, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schickelte, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schneider, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schleipner, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Schuler, (first name not known): burned at Lindheim, Germany on 23 February, 
         1663
 Schultheiss, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 March, 1586 
 Schwarz, Eva: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1581 
 Schwerdt, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Scott, Margaret: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Scottie, Agnes: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Scottie, Agnes: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
 Sechelle, (first name unknown): burned at Paris, France, in 1586 
 Smith, Mary: hanged at King's Lynn, England, in 1616 
 Stadlin, (first name unknown): executed in Germany in 1599 
 Steicher, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Steinacher, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Steward, William: hanged at St. Andrews, Scotland, in 1569 
 Stewart, Christian: strangled and burned in Scotland, in November, 1596 
 Stolzberger, (son) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,  
              1628-1629 
 Stolzberger, (wife) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany,  
              1628-1629 
 Stolzberger, (granddaughter) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg,  
               Germany, 1628-1629 
 Stubb, Peter: executed as a werewolf near Cologne, Germany, in 1589 
 Stuber, Laurence: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Sturmer, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
Style, Elizabeth: died in prison, at Taunton, England, in 1664
 Seiler, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Silberhans, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Steinbach, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Stier, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Stadelmann, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 7 November, 1586 
 Stadelmann, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 7 November, 1586 
 Sutton (mother) (first name unknown): executed in Bedford, England in 1613 
 Sutton, Mary: executed in Bedford, England in 1613 
 Thausser, Simon, and his wife (no name given): burned at Waldsee, Germany,  
           in 1518 
 Thompson, Annaple: burned in Scotland in 1680  
 Tod, Beigis: burned at Lang Nydrie, Scotland, on 27 May, 1608 
 Treher, Anna: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 5 July, 1585 
 Trembles, Mary: hanged at Bideford, England in 1682 
 Trois-Echelles (pseud.): executed at Paris, France, in 1571 (or 1574) 
 Tungerslieber, (first name unknown) beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Turner, Ann: murdered in England, in 1875 
 
 Uhlmer, Barbara: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 24 August, 1585 
 Upney, Joan: hanged in Chelsford, England, in 1589 
 Utley, (first name unknown): hanged at Lancaster, England, in 1630 
 
 Valee, Melchoir de la: burned at Nancy, France, in 1631 
 Vallin, Pierre: executed  in France, in 1438 
 Valkenburger, (daughter) (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 

              1628-1629
 Vaecker, Paul: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Vickar, Bessie: burned in Scotland in 1680 
 Vickar, Bessie: burned in Scotland in 1680 
 
 Wachin, Ursula: burned at Waldsee, Germany, in 1528 
 Wagner, Michael: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Wagner, (first name unknown): burnt alive at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 Wallace, Margaret: executed in Glascow, Scotland, in 1622 
 Wardwell, Samuel: executed at Salem, New England, on 22 September, 1692 
 Waterhouse, (first name unknown): hanged in Dorset, England in 1565 
 Wanderson, (wife 1) (first name unknown): executed in England, in January,  
            1644.  
 Wanderson, (wife 2) (first name unknown): executed in England, in January,  
            1644.  
 Weir, Thomas: burned between Edinburgh and Leith, Scotland, on 11 April, 1670 
 Weiss, Agatha: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 9 October, 1586 
 Weydenbusch, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 
1628-1629 
 
Whittle, Anne: executed in Lancaster, England, in 1612 
 Wildes, Sarah: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 July, 1692 
 Willard, John: executed at Salem, New England, on 19 August, 1692 
 Willimot, Joan: executed in Leicester, England, in 1619 
 Wilson, Anne: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
Wirth, Klingen: beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629
 Wirth, Trauben: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 5 July, 1585 
 Wright, Mildred: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Wright, Mildred: hanged at Maidstone, England, in July, 1652 
 Wuncil, Brigida: burned at Waldsee, Germany, on 6 July, 1581 
 Wunth, (first name unknown): beheaded at Wurzburg, Germany, 1628-1629 
 
 
 Younge, Alse: hanged in Connecticut, North America, on 26 May, 1647 
 Yullock, Agnes: burned in the north of Scotland in 1622 
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                       GENERAL SECTION: THE UNKNOWNS 
 
 8000 "Stedingers" killed on 27 May, 1234 
 180 burned for witchcraft at Montwimer, France, on 29 May, 1239 
 36 Knights Templar died under torture in France, in October, 1307 
 36 Knights Templar died under torture in France, in October, 1307 
 54 Knights Templar burned in France, on 12 May, 1310 
 39 Knights Templar burned in France, on 18 March 1314 
 "Some" burned at Kilkenny, Ireland, 1323 
 200 + burned at Carcassonne, France, between 1320-1350 
 63 burned at Toulouse, France, in 1335 
 8 burned at Carcassonne, France, in 1352 
 31 burned at Carcassonne, France, in 1357 
 67 burned at Carcassonne, France, between 1387-1400 
 1 burned at Berlin, Germany, in 1399 
"Several" witches burned alive at Simmenthal, Switzerland, circa 1400
 "Several" burned at Carcassonne, France, in 1423 
 200 + executed in the Valais, France between 1428-1434 
 167 executed in l'Isere, France, between 1428-1447 
 16 executed in Toulouse, France, in 1432 
 8 executed in Toulouse, France, in 1433 
 150 executed in Briancon, France, in 1437 
 3 burnt in Savoy between 1446 and 1447 
 7 killed at Marmande, France, in 1453 
 1 burned at Locarno, Italy, in 1455 
 "Many" burned in Arras, France in 1459 
 2 burned in Burgundy, France, in 1470 
 3 burned at Forno-Rivara, Italy, in 1472 
 3 burned at Forno-Rivara, Italy, in 1472 
 2 burned at Levone, in Italy, in 1474 
 5 burned at Forno, Italy, in 1475 
 12 women and "several" men burned at Edinburgh, in 1479 
 4 burned at Metz, Germany, in 1482 
 48 burned at Constance, between 1482-1486 
 2 burned at Toulouse, France, in 1484 
 2 burned in Chaucy, France in 1485 
 1 died in prison, at Metz, Germany 1488 
 3 executed at Mairange, Germany, on 17 June, 1488 
2 executed at Mairange, Germany, on 25 June, 1488
 3 executed at Chastel, Germany, on 26 June, 1488 
 3 executed at Metz, Germany, on 1 July, 1488 
 1 executed at Salney, Germany, on 3 July, 1488 
 2 executed at Salney, Germany, on 12 July, 1488 
 3 executed at Salney, Germany, on 19 July, 1488 
 1 executed at Brieg, Germany, on 19 July, 1488 
 2 executed at Juxney, Germany, on 19 August, 1488 
 5 executed at Thionville, Germany, on 23 August, 1488 
 1 executed at Metz, Germany, on 2 September, 1488 
 1 executed at Vigey, Germany, on 15 September, 1488 
 1 executed at Juxney, Germany, on 22 September, 1488 
 1 executed in France circa 1500 
 1 executed in France circa 1500 
 30 burned in Calahorra, Spain, in 1507 
 1 burned in Saxony, Germany, in 1510 
 60 burned in Northern Italy, in 1510 
 500 + burned in Geneva, Switzerland, in 1515 
 2 burned in Besancon, France, in 1521 
 64 burned in Val Camonica, Italy between 1518-1521 
 100 burned in Como, Italy, in 1523 
 1000 + in Como, Italy, in 1524 
 900 executed by Nicholas Remy (years unknown, about 15 years total) 
 "A large number" executed at Saragossa, Spain, in 1536 
 7 burned at Nantes, France, in 1549 
 1 burned at Lyons, France, in 1549 
3 burned alive at Derneburg, Germany, on 4 October, 1555
 1 burned alive at Bievires, France, in 1556 
 5 burned at Verneuil, France, in 1561 
 17,000 + in Scotland from 1563 to 1603 
 4 burned at Potiers, France, in 1564 
 1 burned at St. Andrews, Scotland, in 1569 
 "Many" burned in France in 1571 
 1 burned at St. Andrews, Scotland, in 1572 
 70,000 killed in England after 1573 
 "Several" executed in Paris, France, in 1574 
 "Several" executed in Paris, France, in 1574 
 80 executed in one fire at Valery-en-Savoie, France, in 1574 
 3 executed in Dorset, England, in 1578 
 36 persons executed at Kilkenny, Ireland, in 1578 
 18 killed at St. Oses, England, in 1582 
 "Several" burned in Mesolcina, Italy, in 1583 
 368 persons killed for witchcraft between 18 January, 1587, and 18 November, 
     1593, in the diocese of Treves. 
 1 burned at Riom, France, in 1588 
 133 persons burned in one day at Quedlinburg, in Germany, in 1589 
 48 burned in Wurttemberg, Germany, in 1589 
 2 burned at Cologne, Germany in 1589 
 54 burned in Franconia in 1590 
300 burned in Bern, Switzerland, between 1591-1600
 1 burned in Ghent, Holland, in 1591 
 9 executed in Toulouse, France, in 1595 
 1 burned in Ghent, Holland, in 1598 
 24 burned in Aberdeen, Scotland, circa 1598 
 77 burned in Vaud, Switzerland, in 1599 
 10 -daily- were burned (average) in the Duchy of Brunswick between 1590-1600 
 20 executed (other than those listed by name above) in the reign of King
James VI and I of England. 
 40,000 executed between 1600-1680 in Great Britain 
 205 burned at the Abbey of Fulda, Germany, between 1603-1605 
 "Several" witches executed in Derbyshire, England, in 1607 
 24 burned + 3 suicides in Hagenau, Alsace, in 1607 
 "A number of women" burned at Breehin, Scotland, in 1608 
 1 burned alive by a mob at St. Jean de Liuz, France, circa 1608 
 18 killed at Orleans, France, in 1616 
 9 hanged at Leicester, England, in 1616 
 8 hanged at Londinieres, France, in 1618 
 "Several" witches condemned at Nerac, France, on 26 June, 1619 
 200 + executed at Labourt, France, in 1619 
 2 executed at Bedford, England, in 1624 
 2 executed at Bedford, England, in 1624 
 56 executions at Mainz, Germany, between 1626-1629 
 77 executions at Burgstadt, Germany, between 1626-1629 
40 executions at Berndit, Buttan, Ebenheit, Wenchdorf and Heinbach, Germany,
    between 1626-1629 
 8 executions in Prozelten and Amorbach, Germany between 1626-1629 
 168 executions in the district of Miltenberg, Germany, between 1626-1629 
 85 burned in Dieburg, Germany, in 1627 
 79 burned at Offenburg, Austria, from 1627-1629 
 274 executed in Eichstatt, Germany in 1629 
 274 executed in Eichstatt, Germany in 1629 
 124 executed by the Teutonic Order at Mergentheim, Germany in 1630 
 900 executions at Bamberg, Germany, between 1627 and 1631 
 22,000 (approx) executed in Bamberg, Germany between 1610 and 1840 
 1 hanged at Sandwich, in Kent, England, in 1630 
 3 executed at Lindheim, Germany in 1631 
 20 executed in Norfolk, England, on evidence of Matthew Hopkins, before  
    26 July, 1645 
 29 condemned, on the evidence of Matthew Hopkins, at Chelmsford, England,  
    on 29 July, 1645 
 150 killed in England in the last six months of 1645 
 2 executed at Norwich, England, in 1648 
 14 hanged at Newcastle, England, in 1649 
 220 + in England and Scotland, on evidence of a Scottish Witch-finder, circa 
       1648-1650 
 2 killed by a mob at Auxonne, France, in 1650 
30 burned in Lindheim, Germany, between 1640-1651
 900 killed in Lorraine, France (years unknown) 
 30,000 (approx) burned by the Inquisition (not all may have been witches) 
 3-4000 killed during Cromwell's tenure in England 
 102 burned in Zuckmantel, Germany, in 1654 
 18 burned at Castle Hill, Edinburgh, Scotland, in 1658 
 85 executed at Mohra, Sweden, on 25 August, 1670 
 85 executed at Mohra, Sweden, on 25 August, 1670 
 71 beheaded or burned in Sweden between 1674-1677 
 90 burned at Salzburg, Austria, in 1678 
 11 burned at Prestonpans, Scotland, in 1678 
 36 executed in Paris, France, in 1680 
 "Several" burned at Rouen, France, in 1684-1685 
 3 executed (Suzanna, Isle and Catherine (last names unknown) at Arendsee, 
   Germany, in 1687 
 36 burned at Nordlingen, Germany between 1690-1694 
 5 burned at Paisley, Scotland, on 10 June, 1697 
 9 persons burned at Burghausen, Germany, all under 16 years of age, on 26  
   March, 1698 
 1 burned at Antrim, Ireland, in 1699 
 "Many" burned at Spott Loan, Scotland, in 1705 
 2 persons killed in the Trentino, Austria, between 1716 and 1717 
 1 executed in France, in 1718 
2 persons, a mother and daughter, burned in Scotland, in 1722
 13 burned at Szegedin, Hungary, in 1728 
 1 burned at Szegedin, Hungary, in 1730  
 13 burned alive at Szegedin, Hungary on 23 July, 1738 
 3 burned at Karpfen, Germany, in 1744 
 3 burned at Muhlbach, Germany, in 1746 
 1 executed at Szegedin, Hungary, in 1746 
 1 executed at Szegedin, Hungary, in 1746 
 1 executed at Maros Vasarheli, (nation unknown), 1752 
 100 + executed at Haeck, Germany between 1772 and 1779 
 2 burned in Poland in 1793 
 "Several" burned in South America during the 1800's 
 1 shot by a policeman at Uttenheim, Germany, on suspicion of being a were- 
   wolf, in November, 1925 
 1 murdered in Pennsylvania in 1929 
                    
               for a total of 236,870 (unknowns listed) 

        Frank Donovan says: "Several modern writers claim that 9,000,000 
people met their deaths during the witchcraft persecution but offer no valid 
statistical records to support this estimate. On the other end of the scale is 
the 'educated guess' of R.H.Robbins and others that the total may have been 
about 200,000. Contemporary records are spotty and incomplete. Many deaths 
were probably never recorded and other archives have been lost thru time." It
is this writer's opinion that - one-half million - executed is a reasonable 
estimated total.   
 
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        I am compiling a listing of Protestants killed by Catholics, and a  
        I am compiling a listing of Protestants killed by Catholics, and a  
listing of Protestants killed by Catholics. Contributions to all these lists 
are solicited. The rules are: 
 
        1) You must have the NAME of the person killed. If all that is known 
           is HOW MANY were killed, this will be acceptable. 
        2) You must have a DATE. Day-month-year is preferred, but month-year 
           or year-only is acceptable. 
        3) You must have a LOCATION. Town-nation is best, but nation-only is 
           acceptable 
        3) You must REFERENCE your contribution. 
        4) Please follow the format as you see it above. 
 
nb: I am not, at this time, compiling a list of Jews killed for their faith. 
    To list the six million names from the Holocaust of World War II alone 
    would be too much, and beyond comprehension. They are NOT forgotten! 
    Neither are the martyred Baha'is in Iran, nor the Muslim/Christian/Jew 
    problems current in the Mid-East.....nor the Muslim/Hindu troubles, nor 
    the........well, add your own here. 
 
REFERENCES:
 
                        THE BOOK OF DAYS 
                        W. J. Bethancourt III (unpublished ms.) 
 
                        CHRONICLE OF THE WORLD 
                        Jerome Burne; Ecam, 1990 
 
                        A NATURAL HISTORY OF UNNATURAL THINGS 
                        Daniel Cohen; McCall, 1971 
 
                        NEVER ON A BROOMSTICK 
                        Frank Donovan; Bell, 1971 
 
                        A HISTORY OF SECRET SOCIETIES 
                        Arkhon Daraul; Citadel, 1962 
 
                        THE WEAKER VESSEL 
                        Antonia Fraser, Borzoi, 1984 
 
                        EXTRAORDINARY POPULAR DELUSIONS AND THE MADNESS OF 
                        CROWDS 
                       Charles MacKay; L.C.Page, 1932
                        (orig. pub. 1841) 
 
                        THE HISTORY OF MAGIC AND THE OCCULT 
                        Kurt Seligmann; Harmony Books, 1975 
 
                        THE GEOGRAPHY OF WITCHCRAFT 
                        Montague Summers, University Books, 1965 
 
                        TREASURY OF WITCHCRAFT 
                        Harry E. Wedeck; Philosophical Library, 1961 
 
                        SOUNDINGS IN SATANISM 
 
                        pp 46-54. ISBN 0 264 64627 4 
 
                                       * 
 
This is the file MARTYR-3.TXT, the third of three files. MARTYR-1.TXT deals 
with Catholics killed by Protestants, and MARTYR-2.TXT deals with Protestants
killed by Catholics. 
 
                       (c) copyright 1990 W.J. Bethancourt III
                        1:114/29 DEUS EX MACHINA BBS 
                        (602) 439-8070 
 
                                 (end) 
            posted to MAGICKNET by permission of the author  




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   have not dared to portray in their true form, desires whose attainment
     must necessarily upset existing social and political arrangements."

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Subject: Jehovah a Murderous God??
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Date: 27 DEC 91 10:59:07 MDT

.....
What is the nature of the Jehovah God. Many times we like to see him
as Spirit and Truth, other times as Love incarnate. Perhaps we could
look at the not so nice God to get a little better look at his real,
non-glossed over, raw character.

 MASS KILLINGS AND CRUELTIES ORDERED, COMMITTED, APPROVED BY GOD

The entire population of the earth at the time of Noah, except for
eight survivors, in a flood. "And every living substance was
destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and
cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and
they were destroyed from the earth; and Noah only remained alive,
and they that were with him in the ark." Gen 7:23 [Jehovah, the
first mass-murderer, starts His bloody carrier.]

Every inhabitant of Sodom and Gammorrah, and the surrounding plain,
by "brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Gen 19:24 Lot
and his family fled. [What about little innocent children in the
city and around on the surrounding plain.]

All the first born of every family in Egypt, including children of
those in dungeons and the successor to the throne of Egypt's
Pharaoh, by God on the first Passover night. Ex 12:29  [Of those
that are in prison and the first born of the cattle??????]

All the hosts of Pharaoh, including the captains of 600 chariots,
who drown in the Red Sea while pursuing the Israelites. "... and the
Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea." Ex 14:27-28
[The Christian God is so childish He has to murder instead of using
His brain. He could have made them too sick to walk.]

Victims who perish in the conquest of seven nations in Canaan by the
Jews under Gods guidance so that the Jews can occupy their lands as
God had promised Abraham in Deut 7:1,2. The Hittites, Girgashites,
Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites were all
destroyed, every man, woman and child and mercy was shown to none.
[Would have made Adolph and Custer feel good.]

Amalek and his people, by the edge of the sword, because God wants
to fight with Amalek from generation to generation (maybe just for
fun). The Israelites win if Aaron helps Moses to hold up his hands.
[At times of crisis, God gets whimsical. People are dying everywhere
and God wants to see Moses's palms.] Ex 17:11,16

3,000 Israelites die at the hands of their brothers, the Levites,
every man, their brothers and their companions. Ex. 32:27 [These
were the orders of God who would brook no disloyalty, a self styled
"jealous" God.]

Rulers of Israel, eleven in number after spying for forty days that
wouldn't invade the Promised Land are killed by a plague. Num. 14:37
[The first term limitation?]

250 Levite princes of the Jews who challenged the leadership of
Moses. When Moses points out the injustice of killing the whole
congregation God relents briefly, then swallows up two of the
princes, "their wives, sons and little children", then sent a fire
to consume the remaining princes. Num. 16:1-40 [The Christian God
lies too.]

14,700 people die by plague who protest to Moses about the prior
killing of the 250 princes. Aaron makes an atonement to stop the
plague. Num 16:41-49 [The Christian God seems bent upon destroying
helpless people.]

The Canaanites at Hormah, utterly destroyed, every man woman and
child, by God at the request of the Jews. Num 21:3

The Amorites at Hesbon, Israel "took all these cities". Moses sums
up the slaughter: "We... utterly destroyed the men and the women and
the little ones." Num 21:25 and Deut 2:34

All the sons and subjects of Og, about whom the Lord said to Moses:
"Fear him (the king of Bashan) not, for I have delivered him into
thy hand." None was left alive. Num 21:34-35

24,000 Israelites who cohabitated with Moabite women and worshiped
Baal. "And the Lord said to Moses, take all the heads of the people,
and hang them up before the Lord against the sun..." Num 25:4,9
[Definitely a civil rights violation.]

All the males and the kings of the Middianites, because they
worshiped idols, and all their wives and male children were sold
into slavery. "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, vex the
Midianites, and smite them." Num 25:16-17 and Num 31:7-8

The subjects of two kingdoms on the east side of the Jordan, in
order that Reuben and Gad might seize the land for their own as a
gift from God. Num 32

The Ammonites, decimated by the Lord so that Lot might possess their
land. Deut 2:19-21

The Horims, slain by God in order that Esau might take their land.
Deut 2:22


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nd. 
Deut 2:22 

 All the citizens of Jericho, except for a whore and her family.
"And they utterly destroyed all in the city, man and woman, young
and old, and ox... with the edge of the sword." Josh 6 "They" make
a grizzly game of it , using the superstitious number 7 popular in
the Bible. [Joshua competes with Moses, the leader he replaced, for
the title of Gods number 1 hit man as he follows Gods orders.] 
 
12,000 men, women and children die in a treacherous ambush
conceived and directed by God. Joshua, with the usual mindless
hocus-pocus, holds out his spear until all the inhabitants are
dead. The city was then burned. Afterwards Joshua builds an altar
and offers thanks to God. Josh 8:1-30 [A political monster worships
a Murderous Monster of a Deity.] 
 
All the people of Makkedah, and their king hanged, by Joshua.
Joshua 10:28 
 
All the people of Libnah. Not a soul remained. Joshua 10:29-30 
[Joshua and God were agreed upon the finality of capital 
punishment.] 
 
All the people of Gezer, with none remaining, are killed. Josh
10:33 
 
All the people of Eglon, none remaining, are killed. Joshua
10:34-35 

All the people of Hebron, "All the cities and souls that were in 
them". Joshua 10:36-37 
 
All the inhabitants of the country of the hills, and the south of 
the vale, and the springs and their kings, he left none remaining 
but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel 
commanded. Joshua 10:40 [Joshua simply kills everyone else.] 
 
The inhabitants of Gaza, Askerlon, and Ekron, killed by Judah and 
Caleb. Judges 1:18-19 

10,000 Moabites, killed by the Israelites. Judges 3:29 
 
10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites die at the hand of Judah and 
Simeon. Judges 1:4  [Isn't it nice how the body counts always come 
out as nice round numbers?] 
 
120,000 Midianites die by the hands of Gideons three hundred men. 
Judges 8:10 
 
50,070 people of Bethshemesh, struck dead by God because a few of 
them looked at/into the Ark carrying the stone tablets. 1st Samuel 
6:19 [The murderous Christian God keeps the grave-diggers busy with
overtime burying the innocents.] 
 
70,000 victims (more round numbers?) die of a pestilence sent by
God because David took a census. 11 Sam 24:15 
 
Although Adam and Eve have no sense of right and wrong when they
eat of the Tree of Knowledge, God accuses them of sinning and
tosses them out of their home. Prejudging the human race he then
decrees that all shall suffer for this "sin" by returning to the
dust from which Adam was made. The Christian God curses women with
painful birth. Gen 3 
 
Cain kills Abel because God is partial to altar sacrifices, 
preferring animals to grain. Gen 4 [The Christian God plainly 
doesn't like vegetarians.] 
 
At the time of the Flood, a disaster not uncommon to the tradition 
of other religions, Noah, an imbiber, and his family are the only 
persons deemed righteous enough to be saved from drowning. All 
others, including pregnant women and children, are given no 
opportunity to survive the rising waters. Gen 7,8 
 
Again attributing sin to innocents God fails to find even 10 
persons, or embryos in any stage of gestation, saintly enough to 
escape the fire and brimstone (Biblical napalm). God turns Lots
wife into a pillar of salt when she looks back in horror at what is
happening to her friends and neighbors. Gen 19 [Today many 
Christians oppose any abortion as a God forbidden murder. Where is 
the logical precedent here? The Omnipotent Christian God is the 
Abortionist to abort all abortionist.] 
 
Abraham is certainly willing to do what ever the Lord demands of 
him, even when God orders him to kill his son. But all turns out Ok
when an angel yells really loud to Abraham that it was just a test 
to see how much he loved God. Isaac is very lucky indeed. Abraham 
may have been near deaf at his age and the Angel was calling long 
distance from heaven. [Truly a miracle.] Gen 22 
 
When Sarah gets jealous and insists, proven Abraham consigns Hagar 
and Ishmael to the deserts to die. Gen 21 [Does this qualify as 
domestic abuse or violence?] 
 
Pharaoh orders all midwifes to strangle new born Jewish children.
Of course they refused. Pharaoh then orders them to throw the
babies into the river. Ex 1:18,22 [What's interesting to note here
is that some Christian parents at the present time deny their
children blood-curdling television and give them blood-curdling
Bibles.] 
 
Moses kills an Egyptian deliberately for beating an Israelite. Ex 
2:12 He then becomes God's Lawgiver. One of his commandments 
straight from God is thou shalt not kill (murder). [Two wrongs
don't make a right. Was Moses a murder even before he led the
Israelite rebellion??] 

God tries to kill Moses, because his son by a Middianite woman is 
not circumcised. His wife, angered, circumcises the boy with a
sharp rock and throws the foreskin at Moses's feet. God then lets
Moses off the hook. Ex 4:24-26 [God has priorities, including the
horrible genital mutilation of young boys.] 
 
After first purposely hardening Pharaoh's heart so that he will not
see the Israelites free, God, through the black magic of Aarons
rod, visits ten terrible plagues upon the unsuspecting Egyptians. 
Ex 7-11 [Even the innocent animals are victims of this truly evil
black magic.] 
 
The needless, brutal slaughter of the Passover night is the
intended result of another hardening of Pharaohs heart by an
egotistical maniacal God who wishes to parade his power. Ex 12:29
[Thus God continues his propensity for making the innocents suffer
for the guilty which culminates in the crucifixion of His own
innocent Son Jesus.] 
 
More heart hardening by God causes Pharaoh to chase the Israelites 
into the Red Sea, where the soldiers die by drowning. Ex 14:28 [If 
God could harden pharaoh heart he could have caused pharaoh to let 
them go free. Nothing to it.] 
 
For "offering strange fire before the Lord", two sons of Aaron, 
priests of the tabernacle, are struck dead. Lev 10:1-2 [Not to 
worry, replacements are on the way.] 
 
A blasphemer curses the name of God in the wilderness camp, and God
orders him stoned to death: "And he children of Israel did as the 
Lord commanded Moses. Lev 24:23 [The rocky terrain of Palestine 
broods ill for miscreants and protesters. (Again God could have 
changed his heart and not killed him.)] 
 
Israelites who complain, with good reason, in the desert, are
burned with fire by God in the uttermost parts of the camp. Num
11:1 [Evidently the Christian God loves the smell of roasting,
poaching, baking, broiling or burning human flesh?] 
 
Seeing that the Jews are dissatisfied on their journey to the 
Promised Land because they have no flesh to eat as they had in 
Egypt, God typically loses his temper again and in a childish way 
sends a vast excess of quail, enough to cover the ground a days 
travel in each direction and they stack up to a height of more than

3 feet. As the people started to eat the fruits of their labor "God
smote them with a very great plague." Num 11:31-33 [I guess it was 
better to be a vegetarian after all. Remember Cain?] 
 
The Israelites are forced to wander for 40 years in the desert so 
that the older people would die. Num 14 [The Christian God despises
old people.] 
 
A man caught picking up sticks on the Sabbath is ordered by God to 
be put to death, and the wandering tribes comply. Num15:35-36 [A 
novel approach to the homeless problem?] 
 
Challenge of the authority of Moses (remember him murdering people 
in Egypt?) by anyone always brought out the worse in God, and he 
buries _alive_ the wives and children of the two princes who oppose

Moses. Num 16:32-35 
 
After striving to reach the Promised Land for forty years, Moses
and Aaron are denied entry because Moses had struck a rock in anger
to obtain water. Moses is allowed to look at it once though just
before he dies. Num 20:11-12 and Deut 34 [The Christian God might
have shown a little compassion for Moses who was probably at his
wits end.] 

After striving to reach the Promised Land for forty years, Moses
and Aaron are denied entry because Moses had struck a rock in anger
to obtain water. Moses is allowed to look at it once though just
before he dies. Num 20:11-12 and Deut 34 [The Christian God might
have shown a little compassion for Moses who was probably at his
wits end.] 

God turns Miraim into a leper after she criticizes Moses for
marring an Ethiopian woman. Such unions were contrary to Jewish
custom and also disapproved of by God for everyone _except_ Moses.
Num 12:10 [The Christian God is a two-faced, misogynist Dog.] 
 
   I looks pretty plain to me the Jehovah God is really Jehovah War

   God who likes to childishly parade his power before the masses 
   and destroy those who don't like his totalitarian regime. 
   Jehovah is the God of Evil, many more times worse than any Satan
   we can conceive of.

Now, for gawd's followers and their handiwork:


... "Help! I've risen, and I can't get down!" - Jesus at a disco.

-!- PPoint 2.00
 ! Origin: So What's Yer Point? (1:105/40.666)