Ä Area: UFO ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Msg#: 17875 Date: 08-06-96 21:30 From: Don Allen Read: Yes Replied: No To: All Mark: Subj: Los Alamos: Underground S ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ * Forwarded from ALT.ALIEN.VISITORS * Originally By: rmcoll@rmi.net * Originally To: All * Originally Re: Los Alamos: Underground SCIF areas where "alien" artifacts are kept * Originally Dated: Saturday August 03 1996 13:20 __________________________________________________________________ From: Robert CollinsNewsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors Subject: Los Alamos: Underground SCIF areas where "alien" artifacts are kept ?? Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 13:20:06 -0400 Organization: Peregrine Com Lines: 153 Nntp-Posting-Host: slip22164.rmii.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Cc: Pat Mason Content-Disposition: inline; filename="LA_UNDER.TXT" Xref: news.planetc.com alt.paranet.ufo:73727 alt.alien.research:25511 alt.alien.visitors:149172 Special Compartmentalized Information Underground Facilities (SCIFs) at Los Alamos National Lab where "Alien" artifacts are kept ?? 07-29-96 After the supposed "Alien" artifacts were moved out of WPAFB, OH in the 1982/83 time frame the next question would be: Where did they go ? Well, two places have been reported: The NSA facility at Ft Huachuca in Arizona and Los Alamos National Labs NM. Very little is known about the move to Ft Huachuca so we focused instead on Los Alamos but even here there is much less known about this facility than the "Vault" system at WPAFB. Note: There were reported "Alien" artifacts already at Los Alamos before this reported move took place. Figs 1 shows the area adjacent to the Bandelier National Forest on Rt 4 (Forest location & Los Alamos Natl Lab shown in MapFig circled in red). In figure 1 one can see a bunker: This bunker is representative of the many bunkers that dot the side of this ridge and valley area. Located just over the hill area where this bunker lies is a huge hangar bay door (not shown) according to a Ret AF LtCOl. Fig 2 shows Tech Area 33 entry way at Los Alamos: The road shown in this entry way reportedly leads in one direction off to the left and down to this huge bay door on the bottom "south" ridge area according to this same AF LtCol. This is said to be were many of the recovered "Alien" artifacts were brought in. One example of this is when they would try to bring recovered "saucers" through this bay door and more often than not they would have to "tilt" the recovered "saucer" up on its side to get it through the door. This huge bay door entry is said to lead to a six level structure under the surface. This underground complex is part of a greater complex called "Dulce" (this was the Code Name). The "Dulce Complex" or Area "E" is, composed of sixty buildings: Some are underground; some are revetments, and some are bunkers. Badges with a color security system is in effect. All this according to a key Gov Source who had been there in circa 1978/79. His words to me: "You should have seen what I have seen." The underground part of the facility is estimated to be over a 100++ft down in this mountain ridge area close to the National Forest. This area also lies just outside the main lab complex at Los Alamos (See MapFig). Note: In addition to the "Dulce Complex" there was a reported newer structure built in the late seventies that was described as a three story underground facility. This facility may or may not be physically comnnected to the "Dulce Complex." Now, the big bay door entry represents the "back door:" The "front door entry" is "suspected" to be back down the hill going in an easterly direction away from TA 33 along Rt4. At the bottom of this hill is another Tech Area with controlled access. People who have worked in Tech Area 33 know about underground facilities there (not related to this subject) but, are not apparently aware of just whats behind that huge bay door which according to this same Ret AF LtCol lies further down the ridge line. And, just like at WPAFB, OH; an estimated 99+% of the people assigned to Los Alamos Labs don't know of the existence of this reported underground six story facility: Or, if they knew of it they don't know what its used for or, no "Need to Know." According to our key Gov Source this six story underground building is said to be highly secure with floor access controlled by tubes that only go "down" and super secure "up" access by elevator only. This security system also holds true for the reported newer three story structure. This same source has said that within this "Dulce Complex" or Area "E" sometimes refered to as Area 53 was were the first reported EBE was kept: EBE-1 was kept there until it was said to have died on June 18th, 1952 from an unknown illness. An old Army/Air Force brown shoe Ret Col who reportedly lived with EBE-1 for three years from 1949 to 1952 lives in Phoenix AZ with his daughter at last reports. Eight years ago he was quoted to have said "There isn't day in my life that I don't think about this." But, he wouldn't talk to you unless you were "cleared." And since he has been suffering with terminal cancer he may be deceased at this point. But, according to this same Gov Source there was a 16mm film history made of those three years with EBE-1 and he saw a segment of it. That 16mm film was later transfered to video tape. Our Chief Scientist who heads the Division within this six level facility from the surface has reportedly been in this business for over forty years. His knowledge in this area is considered "Vast" to say the least. He has stated that he spends about 70% of his time on this subject and the remaining time on other technical or management problems: In Febuary 1990 he said that some of our people have gone to the "Zeta Reticuli Star System" and some of "theirs" have stayed with us. But, under no circumstances will he come out into the open: And will only talk to people who are "cleared." For an example of what was reportedly moved from WPAFB to Los Alamos or Ft Huachuca please see the following URLs: 1) http://www.execpc.com/vjentpr/sentalk.html 2) http://www.iscni.com/ISCNI_FTDAlien.html As a casual remark in this brief report I wish to point out that the Top Secret/Special Compartmentalized Information vaulted Libraries, (TS/SCI Libraries) on this subject have been reported at; Sandia and Los Alamos Labs New Mexico, and the NSA facility at Ft Huachuca Arizona. Some material is still believed to be at the National Air Intelligence Center (NAIC) WPAFB, Dayton Ohio: And lastly, there is a reported TS/SCI vaulted library in a government building near the "Mall" in Washington DC. This facility was visited by one of our sources in August of 1995. Lying in the floor area of one of the main entries to this building is a game board called "King's Table:" This board game is often refered to as the "Viking Game" and dates back at least 1500 years. See URL: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/articles/kings_table.html It might interest the reader to attempt to decipher the supposed relationship between this board game and the suspected "alien" presence on this planet and the games that get played: Hint, we strongly suspect there is a relationship: The game looks basic and simple but we don't believe it is: Just like real life games. So, these are the details up to this point: Certain types of information has been left out and other information is not available: If more details do become available on locations and facilities we might want to be cautious less some well intentioned but unwelcomed people show-up there: The "Dulce" facility is assumed to be very active. Finally, we are being told by Gov Intell Sources that for the disclosure process "everything" is "set" and "in place," "ready to go:" In fact, they state that "it's already in motion." This report is certainly more "speculative" than previous ones but, there is high confidence here in the sources and data which have been shown to be right before. We will attempt in every way possible to keep the readers up to date...but, only if they don't expect the "world." For images and more information the Reader is directed to URL: http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/framemst.html Or: http://users1.ee.net/pmason/mora_index.html -+- + Origin: Usenet:Peregrine Com (1:363/1572.1) ... "It's not the years, it's the mileage." - Indiana Jones -!- FMail/386 1.02 ! Origin: * A UFO..what's that? <-> Fidonet UFO Moderator * (1:3618/2)