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Msg#: 16510 Date: 05-27-96 22:06
From: J.j. Hitt Read: Yes Replied: No
To: Bryson Hughes Mark:
Subj: Pual's Canon
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On May 19 19:21 96, Bryson Hughes of 1:116/17 wrote:
BH> NOTICE:
BH> The Apostle Paul cited from many writings that he
BH> considered scripture. However, few people are aware that
BH> Paul's source writings are not all found in the present
BH> compilation of Canon.
I'm not aware of any that he used as "scripture", but you may find
the following message from my archives interesting:
From: JEFF MURPHY Sent: 02-03-92 08:50
To: DON ALT Re: EXCISED, CIRCUMSIZED, OUT
> Which books were excised from the Bible? I don't know
> because if they weren't excised then we'd have them today and we
> wouldn't have this discussion, so
This is a worthwhile question, and there are a number of books missing which
the Bible documents internally. (The following is taken from a Bible
dictionary I have):
book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14)
book of Jasher (Josh. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18)
book of the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11:41)
book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29:29)
book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29:29)
book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29:29; 2 Chr 9:29)
prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9:29)
visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9:29; 12:15; 13:22)
book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12:15)
book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34)
an epistle of Paul to the Corinthians (1 Cor 5:9)
possibly an epistle to the Ephesians (Eph 3:3)
an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col 4:16)
and some prophecies of Enoch (Jude 1:14)
To these rather clear references may be added another list that
has allusions to writings that may or may not be contained within
our present text, but may perhaps be known by a different title;
for example, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24:7), which may or
may not be included in the current book of Exodus; the manner of
the kingdom, written by Samuel (I Sam. 10:25); the rest of the
acts of Uzziah written by Isaiah (2 Chr. 26:22).
Matthew's reference to a prophecy that Jesus would be a Nazarene
(2:23) is interesting when it is considered that our present O.T.
seems to have no statement as such.
.end of imported message.
BH> How many of you can name ONE book that Paul quoted or
BH> mentioned, that is not included in the Bibles?
Hell, he quoted a number of the Greek philosophers but usually
as a point of argument and not as "scripture".
And his "eat, drink and be merry" is lifted directly from
Epicurus.
And then there is his flub-up of Titus 1:12;
1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said,
The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that
they may be soun d in the faith;
The Cretian in question was from Epimenides a quasi-mythical poet
from the 5th century BC. His statement is a simply nothing more than
the "I am lying" paradox (2500 years before Star Trek used it).
As given, the statement can be neither true nor false.
Yet Paul misses the point entirely and treats it as a statement of
fact.
BH> Some of you may also have not realized that Christ also quoted
BH> from sources not included in canon, as well as validated
BH> writings through participation in what they are about,
BH> though they are not included in canon.
Oh lets see... I know he quoted from the Book of Enoch (one of them,
more than one psuedographical book bears that title). And when he
quoted the Spetuagint he also quoted the translators' errors. The
Omniscient really should know better than that.
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